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I have been getting boxed 10mg Bensedin from a reputable online source however I have received information that fake Bensedin are circulating in Warrington and are being sold on markets in Cheetham Hill Manchester.
Has anyone have any information or heard about fake Bensedin?
It's a bit worrying to say the least.
 
I'm in the USA, but the last time I bought 10mg Bensedin, it ws purchased from a UK vendor and it was a knockoff that was largely ineffective. They did a good job imitating the real thing, the drug came in blisters and had all the right markings, it just had little or no effect. It's surprising that they would counterfeit a drug that retails for $1,00 to $2,00 each. Fake Bensedin has been around a while now, so much so, that I will not purcchase this brand anymore, even though it was my second favorite brand (the best ever was Betapam, but the IOP that sold is no more).
 
Someone else posted an article from Northern Ireland who are also having issues with fake Bensedin. We really all need to be careful, with the change in RC laws in the UK those 'factories' or 'labs' will be looking for alternative revenue streams, God only knows what could be put in them. I bought a few panel tests from Amazon but they only tell you if its a benzo or not.
 
Fake Bensedin has been a thing in the UK for a while now. Here's an August 2020 article which calls out those specifically as one being commonly counterfeit (along with some other brands as well): https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/...-use-of-fake-anti-anxiety-drugs-39426836.html
You have a problem and just for money they will screw us good. Must have some kind of control of this. Really if PR is not here many people will not know that are buying shit. Hey man in fucking UK this is happening , and what about the third party world. I can't believe.
 

UK man arrested for supplying fake tramadol, diazepam (Manchester)​

Not sure if there are boxes of Bensedin or Kasol in the photo:
https://www.securingindustry.com/ph...ke-tramadol-diazepam/s40/a14012/#.YaYNCMfP1PY

UK man arrested for supplying fake tramadol, diazepam (Manchester)​

Not sure if there are boxes of Bensedin or Kasol in the photo:
https://www.securingindustry.com/ph...ke-tramadol-diazepam/s40/a14012/#.YaYNCMfP1PY

@mancman Thanks for posting about the fake Gal*nika Bensed*n , and, or, the possible fake Gal*nika Kas*lol, & the
fake (counterfeit) tramadol, + the proof, as per your link, from the UK press.

As one who frequently monitors such websites as "wedinos.org" not far away from Manchester, in Bangor,
Wales, UK, up until maybe one year ago, tops, I had never seen on the wedino's website, any fake or counterfeit,
Galen*ka products, such as the Bense*in, or, K*solol, since I began monitoring, Wedinos.org since the year 2016 !!!

I also monitor, for a much longer term of time, such harm reductions labs,, in the USA, (California) since the year
around 2010/2011, (who also uses the GC/MS device, like Wedino's.org, from DDL Labs, a division of former,
EcstasyData.org (now, with a newer website name, called DrugsData.org in Sacramento, CA USA, but because of
USA limitations of disclosure of the "exact contents" such, if a product is tampered with, on purpose, like either
a product marketed as Diaz, but with no Diaz in the pill, or, a combination of designer un-approved benzo's,

or, "whatever" is in a pill, tableta, or a "comprimido" (the latter usually from Latin America) or Spain, DDL labs,
only offers a "ratio" of the contents, such as, a 1:1 would mean the sample sent in, had some Diazepam in them
But, what milligram or what microgram dose? or, even worse, if a sample come in & tested. (usually always with
the universally accepted GC/MS device) if such sample contained as many as 3 or 4 ingredients, (not buffers or,
drywall), the contents may say, with these ratios, ingredient one "4" ingredient two "1" ingredient three "10", or
in a smaller # of cases, ingredient four, such products as, a OTC med, like APAP, for acetaminophen. , or up to
Fentanyl. (the latter, FYI, I wouldn't touch that med with a 10 foot pole !

Thus, since the late 1980's, the USA laws, in every state of the Union, conform to this, for "consumers" AFAIK,
I just prefer the old school method, of former, PharmChem, another, former harm reduction lab, from California,
who told you by a secret code, you could call in, with your code, or, have a monthly newsletter mailed to you, for
a modest fee, the exact milligrams and exact micrograms, with one's confidentially, preserved, from the late 70's,
until, the late 80's. Perhaps, it worked against Pharm Chem, when for a while, they also published the results, of
meds being thru a GC/MS device & published in the controversial (at that time in history" "High Times" magazine.

Finally, I do believe your entire statement of this thread, @mancman, but, what mystifies me, is that Gal*nika,
AFAIK, only manufactures legit products in the following countries,
1. Cz Republic via Sweden
2. Denmark via Sweden
3. Finland via Sweden
4. Greece Athens, Greece
5. Hungary Veszprem, Hungary
6. Netherlands via Sweden
7, Norway via Sweden
8. Poland via Sweden
9. Sweden Galenica AB, Medeon Science Park, Malmo, Sweden
10. Switzerland Berne, Switzerland

Source: Martindale, 40th edition, for year January 2020, page 4,227, or two volume set of hardcover books,
representing 43 countries of the modern industrialized world, published by Pharmaceutical Press, (the publishing
division of the Royal Pharmaceutical Society of Great Britain, published for the past 137 years. ISBN is this:
978 0 85711 367 2 ISSN is 0263 5364.

Also, I realize several of Gal*nika "items" are marketed, and/or have pharmaceutical plants in such places, as in Serbia, or
possibly a few more countries, formerly a part of Russia, and/or behind the old school term "behind the Iron Curtain".
Apparently, just my 2 cents worth, either some opportunists, have decided to produce fake Bensed*n and/or I still would
like to see the GC/MS results from Law Enforcement, as I did not read a thing, about what was actually in the contents of
the alleged, fake Galenika Bensed*n.

sorry for my long text, as I have a Smartphone, but, still use a Lenovo Laptop, due to many decades of typing, on either
a manual typewriter (Smith-Corona) or with the IBM electric Wheelwriter, from my former careers, in the USAF, or with the
airline industry.
 
נערך לאחרונה:
@Delta L1011
I paid special attention when the article said "elicit or fake". Thats a big distinction although I dont doubt we have fakes in the UK. Only last year a literal 'slave' factory was discovered in the UK, they fill them with illegal immigrants or immigrants also collecting benefits (paying off traffickers??). I will try and find the article...
 
@Delta L1011
I paid special attention when the article said "elicit or fake". Thats a big distinction although I dont doubt we have fakes in the UK. Only last year a literal 'slave' factory was discovered in the UK, they fill them with illegal immigrants or immigrants also collecting benefits (paying off traffickers??). I will try and find the article...
I'm waiting on a personal computer being delivered, then I can stop using my phone and properly link articles. ???
 

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@Delta L1011 I did receive from someone working in drug prevention that various benzos were being sold on the Northwest. I also know someone who was hassled by Roumanian sellers in Cheetham Hill offering boxed Bensedin. There dos seem to be a lot of them around. More than you would expect where there's money to be made anything can be faked now. It does state in the article:
"Further searches at addresses across Cheetham Hill and an address in Fallowfield resulted in the seizure approximately £8,500 worth of illicit benzodiazepine drugs – including counterfeit copies of Galenika's Bensedin brand of diazepam – as well as other class B drugs."

I also keep an eye on Wedinos and Bensedin samples always seem to test positive. I would like to know what's in these 'counterfeit copies'.
 
@mancman Thanks for posting the (meds safety) hot link. It was greatly appreciated. I have access in my (home office) of the last
blisters, boxes, with most have the bin # & expiry date on the boxes and blisters, from Galenika a.d. from Beograd Republika Serbija, of
both products that start out with a "B" and a "K'. Others, from the same vendor, (all NOT from the UK) have more info on the boxes, such as
the L*xilium 6 mg mfg by AAKAO*A + with the Pfi*er X*n*x from also Beograd and even more info like the Act*vis O*y prolonged-release
with the PC #, SN #, Exiry date, *apt # also from Beograd, and finally the Hem*farm B*lbien (Zolp*dem) , also from Beograd.
Also, all of the info (as listed above) is from multiple orders/receipt from Nov/Dec 2020, to January of 2021.

I will pm you the info, when I return from a tightly scheduled day. Also thanks again @Chancer for most informative post.
 
high risk drug alert

It's been reported that yellow and blue tablets are currently circulating in Merseyside. The tablets are believed to be highly likely to cause injuries, temporary spasm or death.

The tablets are approximately 5mm in diameter and are either yellow or blue in colour, with the letters MSJ printed on them. They are believed to contain rat poison and cement.

There is a suggestion that eight people have already died in Scotland as a result of taking these tablets. Research completed confirms that people have died in Scotland due to taking blue pills laced with rat poison.
 
@mancman Thanks for the post. I remember back in the 90s we had a period in Scotland were every day was another story of an overdose from tainted drugs, usually heroin.
Thats why I prefer to buy from overseas but you never really know 100%. I wonder if they are buying overseas or making them in RC factories here in the UK? Scary times.
 
@mancman Thanks for the post. I remember back in the 90s we had a period in Scotland were every day was another story of an overdose from tainted drugs, usually heroin.
Thats why I prefer to buy from overseas but you never really know 100%. I wonder if they are buying overseas or making them in RC factories here in the UK? Scary times.
Them English dodgy folk trying to kill people.One of the first law as a customer rep/dealer is peddle good drugs so your peeps keep coming back and had over their hard money.
 
@cajunbulldog I don't know about today but back in the 90s it was the Scots selling what they bought from suppliers in Liverpool and Manchester. Look up the name Arthur Thomson (The Godfather) and his son Arthur Thomson Jr killed by Paul Ferris (still alive), the McGoverns, 'The Licensee' et al. There was a huge gang war happening at the time, lots of drama, lots of dead bodies. Glasgow was known as the murder capital of Europe during the 90s.

There was a similar war in London with the gangs from Essex at the time. There's been quite a few books written and movies made about it all like 'The Essex Boys'.

Crazy, crazy times. I'm unsure who runs things now?!?

 
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